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The importance of starting the conversation

In this conversation, Mark Copeman discusses the importance of starting conversations and building trust in the MSP industry. He highlights the need for personalization and storytelling in marketing content. Mark also emphasizes the importance of nurturing conversations with existing clients and the role of webinars in marketing campaigns. He advises aligning marketing and sales efforts and predicts that the MSP market will become more competitive in the future.

The role of trust in the IT security industry

According to Mark Copeman, the foundation of a successful Managed Security Service Provider (MSSP) is trust. In our interview, Mark emphasizes that customers are buying trust above all else when they choose an MSSP. ‘It’s a big step for a potential customer to entrust a service provider with the control and management of their IT infrastructure,’ explains Mark. It is therefore crucial that MSSPs first build a trusting relationship before presenting their technical solutions.

First steps towards customer acquisition

Entering the MSS market can be overwhelming, especially for technicians who have decided to start their own business. Copeman’s advice is to start by building a solid foundation with your first customers. Instead of immediately investing in expensive technology, aspiring MSSPs should focus their energy on acquiring their first clients. This can be done through personal networks, such as the address book or LinkedIn. ‘It’s about using the ‘hustle factor’ and approaching potential clients directly,’ says Mark.

The importance of continuous communication

Another important aspect that mMark emphasizes is ongoing communication with existing clients. Many MSSPs tend to neglect their current customers as soon as they acquire new ones. Copeman therefore recommends sending out regular newsletters that provide information about the latest developments in the company and the IT industry. ‘A physical newsletter can attract even more attention than an email,’ he adds.

Creating personal points of contact

In addition to formal communication channels, spontaneous, personal messages are also very important. Mark recommends using tools such as Feedly to collect interesting articles and information that might be relevant to certain customers. ‘A simple link with the message ‘I saw this and thought of you’ can go a long way,’ he emphasizes. Such personal touches show customers that they are valued and understood.

'How can you stand out from the crowd? How can you stand on the stage of your local business forum and show people that you are an expert in what you do?'

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Mark Copeman
Wingman Marketing Ltd
Olaf Kaiser:

If you had to give a State of the MSP Nation speech, what would you say to get discussions going on MSP websites?

Mark Copeman:

I don't think I've ever thought about giving a State of the Union speech before.
That really put a lot of pressure on me, but I like it. I think the most important thing is how we help people. In the last calendar year - I've looked in our CRM system - I've had formal contact and conversations with 320 different MSPs around the world. And that's not surprising. Typically, the people who start these types of businesses are IT professionals. That's what they know, that's what they love and that's what they've been trained for. So why should they know anything about marketing and sales? You can't be an expert in everything. Our philosophy revolves around how to start a conversation as an MSP. I firmly believe that people in our industry will buy from someone for years. And for me, MSPs sell trust first and IT second. When a potential client trusts you with the keys to their kingdom and the ability to control and operate a company's IT and infrastructure, that's a big deal.

You have to have that trust. For me, the sales process starts with talking to people.

Olaf Kaiser:

For example, if I am setting up a new MSP. How do I start with personal communication via all the possible channels I need to use?

Mark Copeman:

I think if you go on this journey and maybe you're, let's say, a technician in another company and you think, okay, I can do this better. I can do this on my own. I see an opportunity. And it's very, very tempting to go out and buy that stack, you know, invest a lot in the technology and then, you know, open the doors and say, 'Okay, come on, let's go.' But that's not how life works.

If you're going to embark on a journey like that, I think it's much better to start with a plan and get your first one, two or three customers than to do what most people like to do, which is get their hands dirty with technology and figure out how to do all this stuff. Because there's no point in making this huge investment if you then say, 'I don't know how to get my first customer.' So spend your time thinking about it first. That might mean opening your address book.

It may mean searching your LinkedIn network. It may mean meeting a few people for dinner to see if they're interested in becoming your first test customer. Maybe there are three or four people in my circle that it could work with, then buy the technology and deploy it. But start with that. Forget the mass mailings, forget the social media. When you're starting out, you need to be face-to-face and ask those questions and invite people to those lunches.

Olaf Kaiser:

Maybe it's not a good idea to neglect contact with all my existing customers.
What do you recommend for these conversations? I've found that existing customers don't get the attention they deserve. What is your opinion on this?

Mark Copeman:

That's a good question. I think it's very easy to forget to inform your existing customers. So I would look at it from two sides. The first is perhaps a bit more obvious. The second is less obvious. I hope it's valuable to people.

The first is, and this is what we do for people, is we keep them informed monthly or maybe quarterly, whichever suits best. Newsletters, email newsletters or honestly, depending on how many customers you have, when was the last time you got something in the mail? Quite rarely. So it's a good idea to print out the newsletter and send it out, provided it contains something of interest, because it actually gets noticed. It might get more attention than an email newsletter. But I think the content of the newsletter has to appeal to customers and tell them about the company, its activities and the people who work there. It could be a summary of technology news that you know might be useful to them. There's a whole range of things you can put in there. And I think that's something you should do if you want to keep going.

Like I said, you have to educate yourself, but you also have to just stay in touch.
That's a very obvious answer, I think. The less obvious answer, and this is something that I've tried to practice for many, many years, and it only works if everyone in the company does it, is those moments of ad hoc communication, and that goes for the technicians on the helpdesk as well, and some people might laugh at me and say that's never going to happen, but it can happen, and I've seen it work. You know someone is starting a certain project, and as a technician you grab all the possible content that's out there because it's part of your job. You want to be up to date. When was the last time you thought, 'Oh, this might be interesting for that client over there,' and grabbed a link and wrote an email saying, 'I saw this and thought of you'? When was the last time someone did that?

And when you get something like that, it means the world. It's personal, the person was thinking of you. And for me, the best way to do that is to use a tool like Feedly. I think Olaf, you and I are old enough to know what an RSS feed is.
They are still around. They're connected to every blog feed out there. It's one of those underrated things. So use a tool like Feedly, create a series of feeds and go through them for 10 minutes every morning before you start your day. And when you see something interesting, send it to a client. And that stays in your memory.
So this could be an interesting idea for others too.

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